True crime pod follows fraud trial; some abuse described.
Parents Need to Know
Why Age 13+?
Any Positive Content?
Violence & Scariness
some
In court proceedings, Elizabeth reveals that she was raped on Stanford's campus. She tells the court that Sunny was physically and emotionally abusive toward her. An employee dies by suicide, overdosing on prescription medication. Employees are threatened, interrogated, fear for their lives.
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Elizabeth has a long-term romantic relationship with Sunny, who's 19 years older than her. Brief nongraphic discussion of their relationship as it relates to the trial and the timeline at Theranos.
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Elizabeth is called mild insults by former employees ("psychopath," "crazy"). Any profanity retold through reading text messages and other communication is bleeped out.
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Themes of coercion, corruption, and manipulation of employees. Representations of lies, deceit, and questionable morals, with little acknowledgement and accountability. A sense of privilege to be dishonest and get what you want. When you see something wrong, it's important to speak up. Highlights importance of critical thinking, not judging a book by its cover, always asking questions before committing and coming to conclusions. Strong showing of journalism and investigative skills. Shows how money and greed can cause people to lie and do harmful things.
Positive Role Models
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Holmes is at first portrayed as a brilliant student who worked hard to attend Stanford and who felt like her calling was to change the world. This perception changes as former employees say she created a culture of fear through bullying behavior and threats of lawsuits and firing. Her actions put innocent and sick people at risk. Once corruption becomes evident, many former employees fight to do the right thing and reveal Theranos' lies, even though it puts them and their jobs at risk.
Diverse Representations
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Elizabeth's partner, Ramesh "Sunny" Balwani, is a man of Pakistani descent. Occasional discussion of the struggles women in the biotech industry face. Holmes' privileged upbringing contributes to the choices she makes.
Frequent discussions of biotech industry, including medical procedures, but podcast doesn't aim to educate listeners about the science involved. Covers the drama and deceit committed by the creators of Theranos and promotes critical thinking.
Parents Need to Know
Parents need to know that The Dropout is the podcast that inspired the limited TV series of the same name. It follows the investigation, aftermath, and trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes and tells a larger story of corruption and greed in the biotech industry. Themes of coercion, corruption, and manipulation are highlighted through interviews with former employees and investigators. The fraud committed by Theranos affected vulnerable communities, like cancer patients and pregnant women. By no means does this podcast display Theranos' manipulation in a positive manner, teaching younger listeners that actions have consequences. Discussion of physical, verbal, and emotional abuse is present but not graphic. Themes and topics may be too mature for younger listeners, but this investigative podcast is sure to entrance teens and adults alike, offering opportunity for discussion and critical thinking and teaching valuable lessons about consequences.
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What’s It About?
THE DROPOUT follows the timeline and trial of Elizabeth Holmes (founder and CEO of Theranos) and one of the most notorious biotech fraud scandals. Lead by ABC News correspondent Rebecca Jarvis, the podcast does a deep-dive journalistic investigation into the background of Holmes and her billion-dollar company Theranos. It follows everything that led up to the corruption and downfall of the company and the subsequent trial for both Elizabeth Holmes and Chief Operating Officer Sunny Balwani. Listeners can expect to hear in-depth interviews with former employees, investigators on the case, and those close to Elizabeth Holmes, as well as audio from the trial. There's even an appearance in one episode from Amanda Seyfried, who plays Holmes in the Hulu limited series inspired by this podcast. What unfolds throughout The Dropout is a journey of twists and turns, which are sure to keep any teen or adult listener on the edge of their seat.
ABC News correspondent Rebecca Jarvis provides a uniquely clear and organized explanation of the rise and fall of Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes. The Dropout will delight fans of true crime and mystery podcasts, with a similar tone and structure to Serial. While Jarvis runs the show, she couples her expertise with interviews from former employees, family members, and investigators who bring life to the story and keep it captivating for listeners. Every inch of the Theranos downfall is covered in this podcast, making it intriguing, informational, and shocking all at once.
Giving this riveting podcast a listen before watching the Hulu series may be preferred, as this podcast provides excellent context and builds an environment that makes watching the series even more enjoyable. While the immoral actions of Holmes, Balwani, and Theranos are less than admirable, the show does a great job of highlighting the character strengths Holmes initially displays, as well as the consequences she's handed for her wrongdoings, giving tweens, teens, and adults a lot to discuss after listening.
Talk to Your Kids About ...
Families can talk about how ambition and passion taken to the extreme are key aspects of The Dropout. What were some positive aspects of Elizabeth's ambition, passion, and story that can serve as motivational? When did these aspects take a turn for the worse?
What role do morals and values play in reaching your goals and following your passion? What are your most important morals and values?
Problems at Theranos started small and became massive. For all of us, little problems can turn into very big problems if they aren't addressed. Do you have a trusted adult you can talk to when things are wrong? What creates a safe space to talk about and work through problems?
How does listening to actual interviews and testimonies from those involved affect how you feel about the story and the outcome? How is it different from seeing actors portray these characters in a series?
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