[Question] kindness mode: serving much more clients than a browser extension. Intentional? #1105

WofWca · 2024-03-10T18:35:32Z

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I have been using both the Snowflake extension and Orbot's "Kindness mode". I notice that Orbot is getting a lot more clients per week. It's in the ballpark 50, whereas the extension is getting like one per day or less. And they are on the same network (WiFi), running 24 / 7 (except when I take the phone outside, but I doubt this is the main factor).
I know this is most likely mostly determined by the polling interval of standalone Snowflake and browser extension Snowflake. See https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake-webext/-/issues/43#note_2820375
I.e. standalone Snowflake is coded to get much more clients per unit of time that the extension. But I think it shouldn't be the case for mobile phones.

The question is: is this something that has been considered? If so, why has it been decided to give mobile devices more clients than to PC browsers?

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...to be comparable to browser-based proxies. See - https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40373 - guardianproject/orbot#1105

...to be comparable to browser-based proxies. Otherwise the proxy polls every 5 seconds, which is 12x as frequent as browser-based proxies do. See - https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40373 - guardianproject/orbot#1105

tladesignz · 2024-09-09T12:26:08Z

No, this is not intentional, but accidental. I guess we should tune down the poll interval at least when the device is running on battery.

WofWca · 2024-09-09T12:28:49Z

I made an MR for this, but the required Snowflake version is not released yet
tladesignz/IPtProxy#58

...to be comparable to browser-based proxies. Otherwise the proxy polls every 5 seconds, which is 12x as frequent as browser-based proxies do. See - https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40373 - guardianproject/orbot#1105

WofWca · 2024-12-09T15:28:55Z

As was said in tladesignz/IPtProxy#58 (comment), this should be addressed in this repo.

I guess this is the relevant code:

orbot/orbotservice/src/main/java/org/torproject/android/service/OrbotService.java

Lines 452 to 457 in e398cf4

    
           mSnowflakeProxy = new SnowflakeProxy(); 
        
           mSnowflakeProxy.setBrokerUrl(brokerUrl); 
        
           mSnowflakeProxy.setCapacity(capacity); 
        
           mSnowflakeProxy.setRelayUrl(relayUrl); 
        
           mSnowflakeProxy.setStunServer(stunUrl); 
        
           mSnowflakeProxy.setNatProbeUrl(natProbeUrl);

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improvement: reduce workload or proxy tladesignz/IPtProxy#58

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[Question] kindness mode: serving much more clients than a browser extension. Intentional? #1105

[Question] kindness mode: serving much more clients than a browser extension. Intentional? #1105

WofWca commented Mar 10, 2024

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[Question] kindness mode: serving much more clients than a browser extension. Intentional? #1105

[Question] kindness mode: serving much more clients than a browser extension. Intentional? #1105

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