espnet models usually have a CTC branch and we can get an onset token information (and offset from the previous frame of the succeeding token onset) by a Viterbi algorithm.

@lumaku, is it easy to obtain the token-level segmentation information from your CTC segmentation?
This is one of the frequent requests.

I would not recommend using the attention map to obtain the segmentation results.
The attention map is noisy and also in the transformer case, there are multiple attention maps and it is not trivial to aggregate such multiple information.

I agree. I believe that what makes the attention map noisy is the self-attention in the encoding layers.
I am curious about CTC segmentation option. How can we evaluate that option? @lumaku

espnet models usually have an attention branch and we can get an onset token information (and offset from the previous frame of the succeeding token onset) by a Viterbi algorithm.

Sorry "an attention branch" --> "a CTC branch"

@lumaku, is it easy to obtain the token-level segmentation information from your CTC segmentation? This is one of the frequent requests.

It is possible, you can set the intervals (utterances) to single tokens.

Use a character-based model. Also, the number of output tokens of the ASR model must be at least 2 times larger compared to the number of ground truth tokens; if not, the aligned tokens will be overlap and become inaccurate.

The CTC output is always in the form of spikes at the output index when a certain token "occurs". The CTC segmentation algorithm sets the interval as a next-neighbor around the token activation. This is usually a bit tricky for the last token (but that also depends on the audio and ASR model).

@Daniel-asr You can test this for example with the character-based WSJ model kamo-naoyuki/wsj on the example audio file in test_utils/ctc_align_test.wav. The algorithm expects a list of utterances (the parameter text), you can input a list of characters instead, then it will align those and you get an interval for each of those characters.

@Daniel-asr You can test this for example with the character-based WSJ model kamo-naoyuki/wsj on the example audio file in test_utils/ctc_align_test.wav. The algorithm expects a list of utterances (the parameter text), you can input a list of characters instead, then it will align those and you get an interval for each of those characters.

Oh, I see. If we prepare a list of characters or tokens, the model expects to work on providing the token level alignments.
Thanks for your TIPS!