Add GitHub itself to the list for complying with takedowns locally in China as per gov-takedowns #56
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They are still up as far as I can tell, unless I'm mistaken it looks like github published China's letter but didn't take action. I would be grateful if you could give information about if any repositories were taken down, or news media reports |
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The README suggests that all listed sites have been blocked:
This is an official GitHub controlled repo, https://github.com/github (verified), so I don't think there is need for third party verification. Here is one sample coverage for Russia: https://techcrunch.com/2014/12/05/to-get-off-russias-blacklist-github-has-blocked-access-to-pages-that-highlight-suicide/ |
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I can access the repositories (except for one) in the takedown requests. If they are blocked only in China, I see no problem with this. Github (and/or any other company/organisation) are not (and should not) be exempt from breaking national laws when operating in the country in question. If they took them down globally, I would agree with the PR. |
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The readme which you posted an excerpt from states that it will only be blocked in that region, which is perfectly reasonable. Complying with local laws when you serve an international community is hardly kowtowing, and is something GitHub must do to ensure the open source community retains as many users as it can. Region blocking content is a trivial matter, and this place has no shortage of programmers, and Microsoft has no shortage of money.
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Yeah, if github took down pages in the west it would quickly be added to this list. But I'm closing this on the basis that github didn't censor the pages outside of China thus didn't export Chinese censorship, so it isn't a serious enough action to be added to the list. It's a situation worth monitoring though, if they change their policy I may then add them. Thanks for spot |
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Yes, blocked in China only, if the policy here is "has to be visible outside of China", should not be merged. |
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BTW, is the Apple entry any different? Blocks reported appear to be only in China, so only innocently complying with Chinese local law
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Also Nike:
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…HK only At caffeine-overload#56 I have been informed that only bans that affect countries outside of China should be added to this repository. The current Nike and Apple cases appear to be only effective in China or HK, so for this reason I recommend removing them from the list to keep things consistent.
…HK only At caffeine-overload#56 I have been informed that only bans that affect countries outside of China should be added to this repository: The current Nike and Apple cases appear to be only effective in China or HK, so for this reason I recommend removing them from the list to keep things consistent.
At caffeine-overload#56 I have been informed that only bans that affect countries outside of China should be added to this repository: The current Nike case appears to be only effective in China so for this reason I recommend removing them from the list to keep things consistent.
The ban is only in China.
The README suggests that all listed sites have been blocked:
This is an official GitHub controlled repo, https://github.com/github (verified).
To further confirm that those pages are blocked in China, I have used https://www.geoscreenshot.com to see how one of the blocked pages (programthink/zhao#38 as per https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/78775b09e64d85f08547287cab204b48b2491192/China/2016/2016-06-08-programthink-zhao.md) looks in China.
The message GitHub shows for 3 of the 4 China locations is:
By Googling that, here are some examples of people reacting to it from China for one of the blocked locations:
Here is one sample coverage for Russia: https://techcrunch.com/2014/12/05/to-get-off-russias-blacklist-github-has-blocked-access-to-pages-that-highlight-suicide/